ABBREVIATIONS

GHS Government Military Head Stone for the Illinois Veterans’ Commission use. These stones may actually be in a footstone or side stone position.
PHS Private Military Head Stone. This information differentiates the government head stone from the privately purchased head stone.
S/w The deceased "shares the stone with"
* The stone is engraved in German and we translated it into English.
** There is no stone, we got the name from the plat map as the owner of the lots.
+ We added information from the St. Mary’s Church burial records and translated the given names from Latin. A + after the person’s name means the whole line came from the church records.
# We added information from the Carlyle Cemetery Association’s burial records.
Living The stone has no death date engraved in it and the birth date is after 1903.  We have withheld their given name and, if it is there, their maiden name.
Married The marriage date has been removed for that couple that has one spouse still living.
Has Children We have withheld the names of the children that are listed on the stone of a Living person.
Green Text Information came from an obituary.

THANK YOU’s

Foremost, we sincerely appreciate and thank the Clinton County Historical Society (CCHS) for their initial readings of these cemeteries years ago. A few of the stones that they read are no longer here so that information would have been lost forever without their earlier reading.

We can not thank Tina Weigman and Father George Mauck at St. Mary’s Church enough for giving us a copy of their computerized burial database from about 1858 through 2002. We were able to pick up about 1,050 new names with no stones or death certificates which would have otherwise never have been identified. We also supplemented stone data for about 2,150 other names with such treasures as maiden names and parent’s names including mother’s maiden names. We now have almost 4,200 names in this cemetery.

Equally we thank Bonnie Kohrmann of the Carlyle Cemetery Association for giving us a copy of their burial records from 1927 through 2002.  Unfortunately the records prior to 1927 burned in a shed fire.

We thank Tom Frerker of the Frerker’s Funeral Home, John Zieren and Andy Zieren of the Zieren-Day Funeral Home, and Joe Smothers of the Corps of Engineers for assistance in creating or verifying the plats we made, adding names of owners of those lots where no stones exist and in giving us copies of their old burial ledgers. Everyone gave us much history and support and great attitude.

The stones were read by a great group of volunteers. They are:  Pam Safriet, Susan Spenader, John Spenader, Helen Spenader, Carol Ryan-Spenader, Gloria Dettleff, Martin Falk and Dorothy Falk.

Please respect the efforts of all these volunteers and respect the copyright© on this publication. This publication is copyrighted© but is free for genealogists’ use. Limited reproduction of pages for your family is permitted. No portion of this publication can be used as a part of any for-profit publication except by the Clinton County Historical Society.

NOTES

According to the 1881 Marion and Clinton County History Book,

"The cemeteries are located in the north eastern part of the town, about a half mile from the public square. A good side-walk extends to the gates of both the silent cites; and everything within is in keeping with building of the town of Carlyle. There are 5 acres of ground enclosed for the Protestant cemetery and about four acres for the Catholic. And we can say that but few cities of the dead show such thoughtful care."

The history book also says

"From the best evidence, the first interments were made in a private burying ground, a little south-west of the town of Carlyle, but from time, almost immemorial, the present cemetery has been the receiver of the city’s dead."

We could not find anyone who remembers hearing anything about the earlier private burying ground.

These cemeteries are now very close to Carlyle Lake and while there are no longer gates and the town of Carlyle has grown to the edge of the cemeteries, the cemeteries are still very much in use and are very well maintained.

This database contains our readings of all the stones found plus lots of extra information garnered from several other sources, which allowed us to include many more maiden names of the deceased as well as parents' names and even some maiden names of the deceased's mother.

What Is Included

  1. Our readings of the stones where only a very few are truly illegible.
  2. We added the owners of lots with no markers based on the plat maps at the two funeral homes.
  3. We added names of people that were moved from other cemeteries during the construction of Carlyle Lake, including to other cemeteries, based on the Corps of Engineers’ records.
  4. We added names of people from the death register from 1878 to 1903 as recorded in Clinton County Death Record Index that were identifiable as being buried in Carlyle.
  5. Next were the names from St. Mary’s Catholic Church burial records, including those buried in other cemeteries.
  6. We added names from the Carlyle Cemetery Association records from 1927 onward.
  7. We have just started adding names from obituaries.

Hopefully we have been able to mesh records for the same person into a single record, but could easily have missed some meshing if one record used the first given name and the second record used the middle name. We also could have combined two separate people whose clues were similar. Please Contact Us if you find any errors.

What Is NOT Included

These things are not included yet but could be added if volunteers submit the data. Please Contact Us if you have information to add and/or can volunteer to research records.

  1. Death or burial records from Carlyle Protestant churches.
  2. Burial permits.
  3. Death certificates from 1904 through 1916 available on Family History Center microfilm or at the County Clerk’s office and after that from the County Clerk’s office.
  4. We added names of people from the death register from 1878 to 1903 as recorded in our Clinton County Death Record Index that were identifiable as being buried in Carlyle and generally did not have stones.
  5. Obituaries from microfilmed newspapers dating back to 1860’s.
  6. Additional funeral home records.
  7. Miscellaneous death records from other towns.

Poor Stones

We made every effort to read each and every stone currently in these cemeteries. We ask the reader to consider the following points with respect to the data that we were able to get from these stones. Especially the old stones:

Factors Affecting the Reading of the Stones:
  1. Condition of the stones. Broken and/or chipped: Time, animals and lawn mowers have taken their toll, often obliterating the pertinent data on the stones. Some stones have been preserved by the construction of small concrete pads in which the old stones were set. Some of these stones had pertinent information buried in concrete when these preservation attempts were made. Thanks to these efforts, at least some of the data was saved from total destruction. After nearly 150 years, the wind and rain have worn some stones almost smooth. In some places erosion has almost completely buried some stones. Often these stones had their lettering preserved by being covered with dirt.
  2. Language used for stone inscriptions. Most stones were in English but there were also many in German and a rare one written in Latin. When the stone was written in German we made a loose translation into English and have placed an asterisk * in the comments field to indicate this.
  3. Placement of stones with no surnames. In some instances there were small stones or footstones with a given name with or without dates but no surname. We used the plat information and death registers to make an educated guess as to the surname and then indicated this in the comments field.
  4. Erroneous presumed connections between families due to the placement of stones. When the preservation technique of placing the stones in concrete was used, sometimes stones not connected to each other were now placed together on a single concrete pad. Sometimes a family would release an empty grave for burial of someone with no family.
  5. Light: Sunshine or cloudy days, morning, noon or evening could sometimes help us to read a stone.

All of these factors contributed to the deciphering of these stones. We often would make three or more guesses before coming to a final "best guess" decision. If you have knowledge (documentation) of a firmer spelling or date on any of these stones, please Contact Us.

Many times family members buried side by side spelled their names differently. We will retain the stone spelling when we can and make a comment on alternate spellings.

If you know of someone who is buried in either of these cemeteries with no stone, again, please Contact Us. Give us name, dates, etc. and tell us what section you think they are buried in, or we’ll add them to our Unknown section. We’ll add a comment that you furnished the information.

Any stones that are in need of repair should be brought to the attention of the appropriate cemetery's caretakers. It is our understanding that stone repairs are made in May of each year. It is generally estimated that only about 60% of the dead/graves/burials have markers in old cemeteries. Although we don’t have a lot of the exact locations pinpointed, we will certainly far exceed that average based on names.

Factors Affecting Row and Grave Designation
  1. Alignment of stones: Often footstones from one row would be in line with the headstones of the previous row. It took patience to separate them. We understand that sometimes the father or neighbor would go out to the cemetery to bury someone, especially children, and say yep, this looks about the right spot and they would just dig there. The rows wave, divide and almost merge with the next row, especially in City Sections A & F.
  2. Plat information: We were very fortunate to have had access to many of the old plats for both the Catholic and City cemeteries. As we tried to make the stones in any given lot "fit" the allotted space for the usual lot of 8 graves, we discovered that often space in an aisle was used as well. We were also fortunate to have access to an old funeral home ledger, which actually stated that so-and-so had bought such-and-such lot and the adjoining "ile". An added factor told to us by a seasoned funeral home director was that in the "olden days" people would buy a cemetery lot and then go out and put their own markers on it to define its perimeter. We also discovered that as some early wide pathways were no longer required for wagons and such, they were platted and sold as grave spaces. Some original platted lots are actually in wooded areas now and we do not know if there are graves there or not. We have included all visible markers that we could find.
  3. Duplicate stones: In general we found that when the first person from a family died there might be a small stone placed on that person's grave. Then later, after more members of the family passed away, a larger monument might be placed on the family lot with many family members' names and dates. Often the first person, perhaps a child, was then included on the family monument. In some places people actually had three stones due to the inclusion of a military stone. There is also the possibility that a family put a new stone in place after the first one became worn for that individual. We have tried to include each person only one time and made a notation of the other stone or stones.

This file last modified 13 March 2009

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